Greening’s grammar guff

Did anyone hear Justine Greening’s BBC4 interview? It went something like this:
“So if grammars have always benefitted the better off, why will it be different this time?”
“Because it will.”
“But if there have never been more than a tiny number of ‘ordinary working families’ in grammars, why will it be different this time?”
“It will be different because it is our policy.”
“But won’t the middle class just spend money on crammers that the working class does not have?”
“Our grammars will benefit ordinary working families.”
“Labour say….”
“I don’t know what Labour’s policy is.”
“The policy is no new grammars.”
“Nuh, Nuh, nuhhhhrrrr….”
That is caricature, but not much.

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